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soldering questions and advice

Postby olicana » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:59 pm

Soldering NOT soldiering ;)

Some time ago I purchased a heap of SYW figs on ebay. They were very cheap, partly I reckon, because several had lost their bayonets. Now, I will be happy to file off several more bayonets and have a whole unit without fixed bayonets - but they will be out of place with the rest of the army. How much better if I could replace them.

The bayonets are off set to the barrel so glue & pin will not work - 1 hour araldite might, but we are talking bayonets.......ping - so the only alternative I can think of is to solder on some new ones. How easy is this to do? What size iron would I need to buy? How useful are they - cost benefit - over several years (I don't do anything electronic)?

advice please,

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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby grizzlymc » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:12 pm

Cut 'em off!

And as for the other, keep your boots clean and your back straight.
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby Brian Horrocks » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:37 pm

Awkward in the extreme you need a low powered heat controlled soldering iron(for circuit board work) and even then the smallest slip will result in ruining your figure. Ive managed to do it at about a 50% success rate and that is using heat sinks etc and im very experienced in soldering electronic components (im a electrician). Unless you have experience and are willing to accept a fair level of mishaps i wouldnt bother gluing is better.
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby olicana » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:42 pm

Brian Horrocks wrote:Awkward in the extreme you need a low powered heat controlled soldering iron(for circuit board work) and even then the smallest slip will result in ruining your figure. Ive managed to do it at about a 50% success rate and that is using heat sinks etc and im very experienced in soldering electronic components (im a electrician). Unless you have experience and are willing to accept a fair level of mishaps i wouldnt bother gluing is better.


I thought you were a butcher ;)
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Postby grizzlymc » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:55 pm

So do his clients, particularly the one who turned on the shower and got an afro!
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby doug » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:17 pm

Brian Horrocks wrote:Awkward in the extreme you need a low powered heat controlled soldering iron(for circuit board work) and even then the smallest slip will result in ruining your figure. Ive managed to do it at about a 50% success rate and that is using heat sinks etc and im very experienced in soldering electronic components (im a electrician). Unless you have experience and are willing to accept a fair level of mishaps i wouldnt bother gluing is better.


I disagree. It's a pretty straightforward procedure that you should be able to master very quickly. And you can get by with a cheap (£15) 25w iron from the local DIY shop. Essentially the trick is to heat the pin and not the figure. Do it right and you'll have a bond that is stronger than the musket. My mate Dave provides a handy tutorial here (and check the comments too):
http://onemanhisbrushes.blogspot.co.uk/ ... onets.html

John Ray is also an expert soldier solderer.
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby olicana » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:31 pm

Thanks for the link.
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Postby John Ray » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:09 pm

With the right approach, as Doug mentions, one can solder 20 bayonets a minute.

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Postby Etranger » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:34 pm

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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby Brian Horrocks » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:08 am

olicana wrote:
I thought you were a butcher ;)

Eh?
thats a reasonable tutorial if you feel confidant give it a shot ive never had consistent results hence the post but its my opinion if at first you dont succeed head for the pub.
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby John Ray » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:07 am

This morning had to fit a new tip to my soldering iron. The tip of the tip was close to falling off after so much use. A tip will last about a year but I use nearly everyday, rarely use glue. I could not make all the figure variants without an iron.
On a serious note, I have been using a soldering iron for over 30 years and I still treat it with respect. It is a very dangerous piece of equipment and I never use it when children are in the house. I use it for the tasks required and then unplug. If you use one remember they come with a 'Safety Warning'!

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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby Der Alte Fritz » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:06 pm

I have gamed with Peter Gilder's old SYW army (Hinchcliffe) and the old son of a gun put pin bayonets on EVERY musket barrel. :shock:

Even though you know that the sharp pins are there, they still manage to impale you when you play with them.

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Postby John Ray » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:15 pm

I must have soldered 20000 bayonets on figures in my time!

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Postby goat major » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:31 am

What impresses me John is how you get them to impale an opponents fingers just prior to an important dice roll
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Re: soldering questions and advice

Postby BaronVonWreckedoften » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:27 pm

No, impaling the opponent's dice so they always show a "1" - that would be impressive.
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